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the same as a brother

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so close to another

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it's the same as my brother

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constitutes a a different form of life

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so close to another

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every friday

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i got some different digs today

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uh so i hope that's okay hope that's

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okay with you

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that i'm casting from a different

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location

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i hope that doesn't throw you off too

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much i have a normal background by the

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way let me know if you prefer

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a normal background or do you prefer the

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green screen because some people like a

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fake background some people likes you

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know l natural route

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and i wouldn't be mad at you either way

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and first of all thanks everybody for

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uh joining the production today

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um it's been

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you know

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really it hasn't been that much time off

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that i've taken

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uh but it feels like a long time when

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you're doing this stuff

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sometimes four or five days a week and

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you take

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six seven days off it feels like a lot

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it really does

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um but i needed that time off i was

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getting a little frustrated especially

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you know we had this big story come out

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with uh about um

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uh gary reed and all that

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then you know it's just the typical

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stuff where there's people on

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you know twitter or whatever pushing

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and it's you know in in some aspects

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rightfully so i would say but other

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aspects not so much you know

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you know i just needed to take a step

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back and kind of

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look at everything

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with a fresh perspective you know i've

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been doing this so long

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you get into it

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so much that you kind of lose your

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perspective

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it's good to step outside of that bubble

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and take a wide look

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and and you know evaluate what's going

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um observe check it out so i did that

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and it was good it was healthy so

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uh thanks for

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being patient

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what's up everybody in the chat thanks

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for joining mark jose dutch andres

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brent what's up disclosure team what's

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up buddy yeah you got some cool shows

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too coming up

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yeah by the way

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a couple uh coming up

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and yeah you should check him out for

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sure i i caught him on miss love show

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and he's fantastic so i can't wait to

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speak with him and we also have um

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um the the david's

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from that so i can't wait to talk to

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them and i did get

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a screener for that i haven't watched it

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this show i can't wait to watch that

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can't get enough for william shatner you

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know i never i never can get enough

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of william shatner so what's up to

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everybody else dutch uap elena

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draycon i love all the different names

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some of you guys are so creative

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linda yep she's right

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the mib in brookfield got me

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and i'm a free man

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thankfully that happened i got away sam

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you know i'm not hating on it bigger

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skippy choosers but you know

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theory of everything

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uh kurt's experiences which which are

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like everything it it leaves you wanting

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but you just want that you want that

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truth right you want that truth

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um but it's definitely a great interview

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gary is obviously a brilliant guy i

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which is which is cool

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that popular though you know and their

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uh ryan robinson is his name

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bad way or anything in a wonderful

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like pointing out the fact that we have

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all these systems

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this different stuff we've had

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in space for god knows how long

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just share it share the data

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frustrated he is because i think in the

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end we all get that frustrated because

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we know that there's more available than

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uh is being shared with us you know

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where enough is enough you know if

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they can help people move on with their

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know to be frank that's just bull

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because he just says it the best you

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no one says that word better than him

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joe christopher sharp i believe

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you know it was pretty intense they

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outed employee one from the original

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complaint for those of you been paying

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um alleged uh sexual harassment

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you know that's in the end found out

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that the edgy couldn't prove

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really anything one way or another

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although it was obvious that he was um

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playing favorites so to speak so

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you know stories come out about that and

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uh his botched role in afghanistan

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withdrawal and

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you know holding back uap transparency

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by basically harassing lou and

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um doing things of the sort so

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jasha you know contacts dod susan gao

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uh no he still holds the same position

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pretty much kind of backs up more or

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what uh the debrief reported

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and then another uh piece gets written

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you know that i put in the description

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here that um you know where the source

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this stuff up uh again and it really it

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happen was gary well gary reed will wind

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up like resigning that's how the

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government works right

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people don't

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fired they resign

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but it's like a forced

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more or less resignation so then they

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out at employee number one

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uh i forget what her name is but you can

301
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and the thing is she takes over dude's

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shop

303
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and that's what kind of pisses me off so

304
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all this stuff is going on with gary

305
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reed this employee one

306
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is like is his right-hand lady

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he's getting pushed into a forced

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resignation more or less it seems like

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and who takes over

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his sidekick

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so to me that goes to show like

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shit's still going on there and it's not

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completely figured out or she wouldn't

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be the one in charge

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you know she wouldn't be the one being

316
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put in that position now maybe she is

317
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out of convenience because it's a big

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role that he had

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counterintelligence across the entire

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country who's gonna know more about you

321
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know his systems and what he did than

322
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somebody like that but come on

323
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you know like that's not

324
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that's not how to do it that's not what

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you do

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you know

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and at this point

328
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you know it seems like both of those

329
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people have lost enough credibility to

330
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where you got to get somebody new in

331
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what's up kristin boulder colorado that

332
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sounds awesome

333
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sounds super cool i wish i was there

334
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um and then the interview with lou

335
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pretty much talked about how you know

336
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he's a he's a

337
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a piece of a larger problem

338
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he did say that there's more people

339
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pushing for transparency than there are

340
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people fighting against it and that's

341
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the good news

342
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and yada yada but

343
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um there's there's a lot more to do and

344
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you know the interesting thing is

345
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lose seems you know from the the little

346
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piece that he did with daily mail and

347
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then

348
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the interview with ryan who really seems

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like he still

350
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has a lot of information as far as what

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is going on on the inside doesn't he i

352
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mean in ryan's interview he said

353
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about uap encounters that they just got

354
00:14:04,710 --> 00:14:02,720
two

355
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more encounters interesting encounters

356
00:14:09,430 --> 00:14:06,800
within like the last week now how would

357
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he know that

358
00:14:15,189 --> 00:14:13,509
you know

359
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somehow involved or someone's giving

360
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them information right

361
00:14:23,350 --> 00:14:21,519
and then you think about him being

362
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a contractor for the government which

363
00:14:26,230 --> 00:14:24,880
jesus admitted right

364
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now

365
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what i wonder is has anyone ever thought

366
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about maybe his role as a contractor for

367
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just thinking just thinking out loud

368
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but i wonder

369
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if that's the case

370
00:14:49,829 --> 00:14:48,000
that could make a lot of sense now it

371
00:14:50,629 --> 00:14:49,839
could be wrong

372
00:14:53,509 --> 00:14:50,639
but

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just

374
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he's obviously got info on the inside

375
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and um you know he's able to take care

376
00:15:02,949 --> 00:15:00,800
of business by getting rid of people

377
00:15:04,470 --> 00:15:02,959
that you know frankly seemingly should

378
00:15:05,509 --> 00:15:04,480
be there so

379
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um

380
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that's fantastic and hopefully that

381
00:15:12,949 --> 00:15:08,880
train keeps rolling

382
00:15:15,750 --> 00:15:12,959
you know uap or not uap like if people

383
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are you know

384
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sexually harassing whim employees

385
00:15:24,710 --> 00:15:22,480
you know botching withdrawals

386
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like from afghanistan and all that like

387
00:15:29,030 --> 00:15:27,199
they shouldn't be there you know

388
00:15:30,870 --> 00:15:29,040
and if the things like lou says are true

389
00:15:33,749 --> 00:15:30,880
about how he tried briefing him on a

390
00:15:35,670 --> 00:15:33,759
different uh portfolio that he had which

391
00:15:37,030 --> 00:15:35,680
was basically around 9 11 and the guy

392
00:15:39,430 --> 00:15:37,040
didn't really seem to care one way or

393
00:15:40,470 --> 00:15:39,440
another like get the guy out of there

394
00:15:42,710 --> 00:15:40,480
like

395
00:15:48,870 --> 00:15:42,720
whatever the case is

396
00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:51,509
so

397
00:15:55,990 --> 00:15:53,749
that hopefully that whole thing keeps

398
00:15:58,629 --> 00:15:56,000
rolling i i really do hope that keeps

399
00:16:01,189 --> 00:15:58,639
going and i hope that people keep on it

400
00:16:03,509 --> 00:16:01,199
like chris sharpe and and others

401
00:16:05,430 --> 00:16:03,519
who are boldly going out there

402
00:16:09,189 --> 00:16:05,440
and writing these stories

403
00:16:11,110 --> 00:16:09,199
just to basically get a

404
00:16:13,829 --> 00:16:11,120
lot of pushback from people

405
00:16:18,069 --> 00:16:16,550
uh from one person or another yeah you

406
00:16:19,430 --> 00:16:18,079
know who they are like greenwald that

407
00:16:22,710 --> 00:16:19,440
was the first guy to come out with the

408
00:16:24,389 --> 00:16:22,720
dod statement saying this story is

409
00:16:26,470 --> 00:16:24,399
absolutely incorrect other people are

410
00:16:28,230 --> 00:16:26,480
calling chris like lazy and all this

411
00:16:30,470 --> 00:16:28,240
kind of stuff like that just has no

412
00:16:32,550 --> 00:16:30,480
place in this the guy's doing his job

413
00:16:34,389 --> 00:16:32,560
he's got his sources he's got his ways

414
00:16:35,990 --> 00:16:34,399
of doing business and if you don't like

415
00:16:38,870 --> 00:16:36,000
that that's fine but you know what do

416
00:16:40,230 --> 00:16:38,880
your job and do it better than him

417
00:16:41,990 --> 00:16:40,240
that's how that's how you're supposed to

418
00:16:44,230 --> 00:16:42,000
do it

419
00:16:47,269 --> 00:16:44,240
you know um

420
00:16:48,790 --> 00:16:47,279
petty this or petty that uh and remarks

421
00:16:50,470 --> 00:16:48,800
about somebody who's just doing their

422
00:16:52,310 --> 00:16:50,480
thing living their life

423
00:16:53,990 --> 00:16:52,320
there's just no need for that and what

424
00:16:55,829 --> 00:16:54,000
that means to me is

425
00:16:59,430 --> 00:16:55,839
you know what you can't do your job

426
00:17:01,189 --> 00:16:59,440
better than he can and so you resort to

427
00:17:03,189 --> 00:17:01,199
you know remarks like that about

428
00:17:05,590 --> 00:17:03,199
somebody

429
00:17:07,510 --> 00:17:05,600
so i would suggest go out there and get

430
00:17:09,110 --> 00:17:07,520
your own information get better

431
00:17:12,309 --> 00:17:09,120
information and more accurate

432
00:17:15,110 --> 00:17:12,319
information if you think

433
00:17:18,789 --> 00:17:15,120
uh that's possible

434
00:17:19,669 --> 00:17:18,799
because everybody knows

435
00:17:22,069 --> 00:17:19,679
that

436
00:17:24,069 --> 00:17:22,079
um you know actually speak louder than

437
00:17:25,990 --> 00:17:24,079
words

438
00:17:29,110 --> 00:17:26,000
right

439
00:17:30,390 --> 00:17:29,120
and so go out there do some actions and

440
00:17:32,070 --> 00:17:30,400
show your worth

441
00:17:33,990 --> 00:17:32,080
show that you're right so that you're

442
00:17:37,270 --> 00:17:34,000
better

443
00:17:40,549 --> 00:17:38,789
you know those remarks against people

444
00:17:41,830 --> 00:17:40,559
like christopher sharp just kind of you

445
00:17:44,310 --> 00:17:41,840
might as well flush them down the toilet

446
00:17:46,470 --> 00:17:44,320
because what that shows to me is hey you

447
00:17:50,549 --> 00:17:46,480
can't do it

448
00:17:52,470 --> 00:17:50,559
pissed about it

449
00:17:56,390 --> 00:17:52,480
so

450
00:17:59,510 --> 00:17:58,070
you know another thing you can do when

451
00:18:01,669 --> 00:17:59,520
you look at the different characters in

452
00:18:04,230 --> 00:18:01,679
this business right is you know in the

453
00:18:05,510 --> 00:18:04,240
different sides to this right and and

454
00:18:07,669 --> 00:18:05,520
how do they act when a piece of

455
00:18:09,909 --> 00:18:07,679
information comes out or whatever

456
00:18:12,310 --> 00:18:09,919
it's like but look at the people that

457
00:18:15,909 --> 00:18:12,320
are immature about certain things right

458
00:18:17,510 --> 00:18:15,919
whether it be you know a name calling or

459
00:18:21,590 --> 00:18:17,520
bullying or whatever

460
00:18:24,070 --> 00:18:21,600
when i see that it emboldens you know my

461
00:18:26,310 --> 00:18:24,080
own self and that i'm on the right side

462
00:18:28,390 --> 00:18:26,320
of this because guess what i don't want

463
00:18:30,950 --> 00:18:28,400
to be on the side that does stuff like

464
00:18:32,870 --> 00:18:30,960
that you know regardless of anything

465
00:18:34,789 --> 00:18:32,880
else

466
00:18:37,990 --> 00:18:34,799
you know

467
00:18:39,669 --> 00:18:38,000
i'm not i'm not on the bully side

468
00:18:41,430 --> 00:18:39,679
you know and

469
00:18:43,029 --> 00:18:41,440
you can really gauge a lot from who

470
00:18:44,549 --> 00:18:43,039
people are and just how they act

471
00:18:46,470 --> 00:18:44,559
regardless of the information or

472
00:18:48,710 --> 00:18:46,480
whatever they're talking about like when

473
00:18:51,909 --> 00:18:48,720
people come out and act like that it's

474
00:18:54,310 --> 00:18:51,919
clear that they're on the wrong side

475
00:18:57,909 --> 00:18:54,320
they're on the bad side

476
00:19:01,669 --> 00:18:57,919
you know because of that character

477
00:19:07,350 --> 00:19:03,909
you know and and that's uh a pretty good

478
00:19:11,029 --> 00:19:08,230
so

479
00:19:14,549 --> 00:19:11,039
that being said

480
00:19:17,350 --> 00:19:14,559
this week on twitter i have posted

481
00:19:19,669 --> 00:19:17,360
a good amount of uh documents yet that i

482
00:19:22,310 --> 00:19:19,679
think are pretty pretty good

483
00:19:25,510 --> 00:19:22,320
and when i show these documents it's

484
00:19:27,270 --> 00:19:25,520
you know i hope you know that i don't

485
00:19:29,029 --> 00:19:27,280
i don't pick just random documents

486
00:19:32,470 --> 00:19:29,039
because you know i think it's fun or

487
00:19:34,470 --> 00:19:32,480
entertaining i try to pick these because

488
00:19:36,230 --> 00:19:34,480
it proved a point to me when i first

489
00:19:38,070 --> 00:19:36,240
looked at these and i hope it proves the

490
00:19:40,870 --> 00:19:38,080
point to other people that this stuff

491
00:19:43,430 --> 00:19:40,880
has been going on for a long long long

492
00:19:44,590 --> 00:19:43,440
time you know and some of these cases

493
00:19:47,590 --> 00:19:44,600
are

494
00:19:50,470 --> 00:19:47,600
spectacular cases in it

495
00:19:53,510 --> 00:19:50,480
should infuriate infuriate you as much

496
00:19:56,789 --> 00:19:53,520
as it did me that has been going on this

497
00:19:58,950 --> 00:19:56,799
long without any action

498
00:20:00,950 --> 00:19:58,960
you know and and we get pushback from

499
00:20:02,630 --> 00:20:00,960
different people talking about it could

500
00:20:04,789 --> 00:20:02,640
be a balloon or this or that as far as

501
00:20:06,390 --> 00:20:04,799
like the the navy videos or whatever but

502
00:20:09,029 --> 00:20:06,400
like forget that

503
00:20:12,470 --> 00:20:09,039
like okay can you solve

504
00:20:13,990 --> 00:20:12,480
the thousands of other cases

505
00:20:15,510 --> 00:20:14,000
since

506
00:20:16,710 --> 00:20:15,520
you know documented with our government

507
00:20:18,549 --> 00:20:16,720
47

508
00:20:20,470 --> 00:20:18,559
but really what i think since the

509
00:20:22,310 --> 00:20:20,480
beginning of time

510
00:20:24,630 --> 00:20:22,320
stuff has been documented

511
00:20:27,270 --> 00:20:24,640
going back centuries

512
00:20:33,430 --> 00:20:30,070
but information has gotten a lot better

513
00:20:36,230 --> 00:20:33,440
you know within the past you know

514
00:20:38,310 --> 00:20:36,240
you know 80 years or so with radars and

515
00:20:42,149 --> 00:20:38,320
and and all that so

516
00:20:42,870 --> 00:20:42,159
that match up with visual testimony

517
00:20:44,710 --> 00:20:42,880
and

518
00:20:46,549 --> 00:20:44,720
you know information has been withheld

519
00:20:49,430 --> 00:20:46,559
with us from so

520
00:20:51,990 --> 00:20:49,440
freaking long case in point

521
00:20:54,870 --> 00:20:52,000
right now what we're doing is

522
00:20:56,710 --> 00:20:54,880
dealing with congress right and who is

523
00:20:59,590 --> 00:20:56,720
not

524
00:21:02,149 --> 00:20:59,600
really participating

525
00:21:04,950 --> 00:21:02,159
and continues to obfuscate information

526
00:21:06,789 --> 00:21:04,960
what's the air force

527
00:21:12,549 --> 00:21:06,799
so i thought this document was very

528
00:21:15,510 --> 00:21:13,590
and they're talking about a

529
00:21:17,110 --> 00:21:15,520
congressional investigation into the air

530
00:21:19,350 --> 00:21:17,120
force and how they handle the ufo

531
00:21:21,430 --> 00:21:19,360
problem

532
00:21:23,909 --> 00:21:21,440
all the way back then

533
00:21:26,710 --> 00:21:23,919
way back back back back back not even

534
00:21:30,070 --> 00:21:26,720
the way back machine

535
00:21:32,230 --> 00:21:30,080
if you know what that is

536
00:21:34,549 --> 00:21:32,240
pull this up

537
00:21:37,350 --> 00:21:34,559
so this is from blue book the blue book

538
00:21:42,870 --> 00:21:38,870
and you can see here if you read it for

539
00:21:47,430 --> 00:21:45,190
that they're talking about

540
00:21:50,950 --> 00:21:47,440
this congressional

541
00:21:54,950 --> 00:21:53,110
and there's

542
00:21:56,950 --> 00:21:54,960
you know this is basically the points

543
00:22:01,750 --> 00:21:56,960
that the air force is trying to make if

544
00:22:05,830 --> 00:22:03,750
a couple interesting things in the the

545
00:22:10,390 --> 00:22:05,840
most interesting one will be on the next

546
00:22:14,630 --> 00:22:12,789
i propose to conduct the investigation

547
00:22:17,270 --> 00:22:14,640
along the following lines

548
00:22:19,029 --> 00:22:17,280
i proposed mr heinz and provided you

549
00:22:20,870 --> 00:22:19,039
agree bring him to your office for

550
00:22:23,110 --> 00:22:20,880
introduction and then conduct the

551
00:22:25,669 --> 00:22:23,120
discussion in my office so right here

552
00:22:28,070 --> 00:22:25,679
the air force is really trying to

553
00:22:30,789 --> 00:22:28,080
control

554
00:22:35,029 --> 00:22:30,799
the possible investigation right and

555
00:22:37,270 --> 00:22:35,039
this isn't that important this one is

556
00:22:39,510 --> 00:22:37,280
really telling

557
00:22:45,430 --> 00:22:39,520
of what we're still dealing with

558
00:22:50,149 --> 00:22:47,110
saf

559
00:22:54,310 --> 00:22:50,159
ll's present efforts are directed toward

560
00:22:59,830 --> 00:22:56,549
your efforts are towards heading off the

561
00:23:04,950 --> 00:23:02,950
if you have nothing to hide why

562
00:23:09,830 --> 00:23:04,960
you should want the investigation

563
00:23:11,990 --> 00:23:09,840
because it will validate your efforts

564
00:23:14,070 --> 00:23:12,000
people can say yeah they really are

565
00:23:15,909 --> 00:23:14,080
doing the best they can they're not

566
00:23:18,470 --> 00:23:15,919
hiding anything

567
00:23:21,350 --> 00:23:18,480
this is exactly what you would want

568
00:23:23,270 --> 00:23:21,360
if that was the case

569
00:23:25,190 --> 00:23:23,280
look they did investigations they went

570
00:23:28,789 --> 00:23:25,200
deep they looked and everything look

571
00:23:32,549 --> 00:23:30,390
but you know what

572
00:23:34,390 --> 00:23:32,559
as people suspected

573
00:23:38,470 --> 00:23:34,400
since the beginning of all this you know

574
00:23:43,029 --> 00:23:40,310
the efforts are directed toward heading

575
00:23:45,350 --> 00:23:43,039
off investigation or

576
00:23:49,590 --> 00:23:45,360
if it is duker having it take place in

577
00:23:52,149 --> 00:23:49,600
washington dc with their contractor

578
00:23:55,510 --> 00:23:52,159
dr j allen heineck consultant to the

579
00:24:00,789 --> 00:23:57,510
why wouldn't why don't they want it at

580
00:24:02,630 --> 00:24:00,799
wright-patterson air force base

581
00:24:04,789 --> 00:24:02,640
where the project is

582
00:24:06,950 --> 00:24:04,799
why do they want it to be in dc

583
00:24:11,350 --> 00:24:06,960
what are they hiding at wright-patterson

584
00:24:15,750 --> 00:24:13,669
that's what i wonder

585
00:24:17,110 --> 00:24:15,760
to see the whole documents

586
00:24:18,630 --> 00:24:17,120
you can simply

587
00:24:19,909 --> 00:24:18,640
go to

588
00:24:21,830 --> 00:24:19,919
my twitter

589
00:24:24,870 --> 00:24:21,840
or my website

590
00:24:27,830 --> 00:24:24,880
and you can find under witness files

591
00:24:29,750 --> 00:24:27,840
ufos in congress and i have about like

592
00:24:32,230 --> 00:24:29,760
six or seven packets

593
00:24:34,149 --> 00:24:32,240
of information as far as past

594
00:24:34,950 --> 00:24:34,159
congressional inquiries

595
00:24:36,950 --> 00:24:34,960
and

596
00:24:38,789 --> 00:24:36,960
insider baseball

597
00:24:43,029 --> 00:24:38,799
as far as that goes but this is the most

598
00:24:50,470 --> 00:24:46,789
another document i posted

599
00:24:53,070 --> 00:24:50,480
on twitter that seemed to get some buzz

600
00:24:56,470 --> 00:24:53,080
was this one dating back to october 14

601
00:24:58,549 --> 00:24:56,480
1949 los alamos new mexico

602
00:25:00,710 --> 00:24:58,559
little did the public know all these

603
00:25:03,510 --> 00:25:00,720
people now i know it's you know not the

604
00:25:05,350 --> 00:25:03,520
best text here it's an old document

605
00:25:07,029 --> 00:25:05,360
but you can see on the right hand side

606
00:25:08,390 --> 00:25:07,039
all the different people that were part

607
00:25:12,070 --> 00:25:08,400
of this

608
00:25:14,630 --> 00:25:12,080
um you know meeting so to speak

609
00:25:18,630 --> 00:25:14,640
about aerial phenomenon in the southwest

610
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:24,070
i traveled this way

611
00:25:29,110 --> 00:25:26,789
you can see all the different people

612
00:25:31,110 --> 00:25:29,120
we have someone from osi air force

613
00:25:34,630 --> 00:25:31,120
professor of meteorics

614
00:25:36,950 --> 00:25:34,640
uh scientific advisory board

615
00:25:41,510 --> 00:25:36,960
uh branch intelligence office of the

616
00:25:43,590 --> 00:25:41,520
army geophysical research fbi fbi

617
00:25:45,110 --> 00:25:43,600
security operations branch

618
00:25:49,350 --> 00:25:45,120
los alamos

619
00:25:58,470 --> 00:25:53,350
director for weapon development

620
00:26:02,470 --> 00:26:00,390
and look what they say after careful

621
00:26:04,390 --> 00:26:02,480
discussion it was concluded that

622
00:26:09,669 --> 00:26:04,400
real phenomena

623
00:26:14,230 --> 00:26:12,310
here we are 2022

624
00:26:18,390 --> 00:26:14,240
still trying to get information

625
00:26:24,230 --> 00:26:20,870
this kind of goes along the same lines

626
00:26:31,510 --> 00:26:25,990
this is regarding a one particular

627
00:26:35,669 --> 00:26:34,549
there's at least 100 total sightings

628
00:26:37,909 --> 00:26:35,679
of these

629
00:26:40,230 --> 00:26:37,919
of this phenomena which there was really

630
00:26:42,070 --> 00:26:40,240
a lot more than that

631
00:26:43,909 --> 00:26:42,080
probably

632
00:26:46,950 --> 00:26:43,919
upwards to a thousand there was one case

633
00:26:49,269 --> 00:26:46,960
where dr lapaz and others canvassed the

634
00:26:54,710 --> 00:26:49,279
area for miles

635
00:27:00,070 --> 00:26:56,630
pretty intense in all these places el

636
00:27:03,669 --> 00:27:00,080
paso albuquerque look at this socorro

637
00:27:07,430 --> 00:27:03,679
other locations roswell

638
00:27:14,630 --> 00:27:11,510
what was going on

639
00:27:18,149 --> 00:27:14,640
pretty

640
00:27:25,190 --> 00:27:22,549
and that's really you know um

641
00:27:27,269 --> 00:27:25,200
that part of the ufo history is often

642
00:27:30,710 --> 00:27:27,279
overlooked

643
00:27:32,549 --> 00:27:30,720
is the green fireball phenomenon

644
00:27:34,470 --> 00:27:32,559
of the early 40s

645
00:27:35,430 --> 00:27:34,480
late 40s early 50s

646
00:27:37,990 --> 00:27:35,440
why

647
00:27:40,549 --> 00:27:38,000
i'm not sure because they did not decide

648
00:27:42,070 --> 00:27:40,559
that it was a meteorite

649
00:27:43,830 --> 00:27:42,080
because first of all there would have

650
00:27:46,070 --> 00:27:43,840
been hundreds of them

651
00:27:46,830 --> 00:27:46,080
in a very small amount of time in the

652
00:27:48,470 --> 00:27:46,840
same

653
00:27:50,549 --> 00:27:48,480
location

654
00:27:52,230 --> 00:27:50,559
dr lapaz who headed up project twinkle

655
00:27:55,669 --> 00:27:52,240
back then

656
00:27:57,430 --> 00:27:55,679
thought and still thinks well you know

657
00:27:59,190 --> 00:27:57,440
not still because he's dead but you know

658
00:28:01,430 --> 00:27:59,200
later in his life thought it was some

659
00:28:03,029 --> 00:28:01,440
sort of secret uh

660
00:28:05,190 --> 00:28:03,039
project

661
00:28:08,389 --> 00:28:05,200
or american weapon or something and a

662
00:28:12,070 --> 00:28:08,399
lot of the people from those days went

663
00:28:15,750 --> 00:28:12,080
on to work on secret projects

664
00:28:18,470 --> 00:28:16,549
why

665
00:28:21,269 --> 00:28:18,480
i don't know

666
00:28:22,710 --> 00:28:21,279
but it's interesting to me that that uh

667
00:28:28,149 --> 00:28:22,720
part of this

668
00:28:34,710 --> 00:28:30,230
in one document i actually read how dr

669
00:28:37,190 --> 00:28:34,720
lapaz was commenting to ellen heineck

670
00:28:38,789 --> 00:28:37,200
about uh jacquez

671
00:28:39,830 --> 00:28:38,799
jacques vale's

672
00:28:41,590 --> 00:28:39,840
book

673
00:28:45,990 --> 00:28:41,600
uh

674
00:28:49,430 --> 00:28:46,000
phenomenon or something like that he

675
00:29:00,310 --> 00:28:51,669
that he was pissed off because he he

676
00:29:04,950 --> 00:29:02,230
what does that mean i have no idea but i

677
00:29:09,269 --> 00:29:04,960
thought it was interesting

678
00:29:13,669 --> 00:29:11,430
so

679
00:29:14,950 --> 00:29:13,679
this kind of brings me

680
00:29:17,110 --> 00:29:14,960
to

681
00:29:18,710 --> 00:29:17,120
something new before we switch and go

682
00:29:22,630 --> 00:29:18,720
into a different

683
00:29:28,310 --> 00:29:24,630
and this is

684
00:29:32,149 --> 00:29:28,320
one of the more interesting cases

685
00:29:37,190 --> 00:29:34,310
really ever come across

686
00:29:39,669 --> 00:29:37,200
in the blue book files

687
00:29:41,830 --> 00:29:39,679
it's this case about air force pilot

688
00:29:44,149 --> 00:29:41,840
who's at tonopa nevada and he's going

689
00:29:46,870 --> 00:29:44,159
through survival training and he's

690
00:29:48,549 --> 00:29:46,880
driving he's on the road and he stops

691
00:29:50,310 --> 00:29:48,559
and he sees four

692
00:29:51,909 --> 00:29:50,320
basically bright discs

693
00:29:53,029 --> 00:29:51,919
and he comes in pretty close contact

694
00:29:55,830 --> 00:29:53,039
with them

695
00:29:56,950 --> 00:29:55,840
and his bosses basically are freaking

696
00:30:00,149 --> 00:29:56,960
out about it

697
00:30:01,750 --> 00:30:00,159
and they call it basically an emergency

698
00:30:04,470 --> 00:30:01,760
and they're trying to get somebody to

699
00:30:06,710 --> 00:30:04,480
look at this case like asap but they

700
00:30:08,630 --> 00:30:06,720
also are worried because whoever they

701
00:30:11,990 --> 00:30:08,640
get to look at the case has to be read

702
00:30:13,430 --> 00:30:12,000
into something whatever that means

703
00:30:15,750 --> 00:30:13,440
and are they going to be able to read in

704
00:30:18,310 --> 00:30:15,760
this person on time they wind up finding

705
00:30:20,149 --> 00:30:18,320
a person named dr pitts

706
00:30:23,430 --> 00:30:20,159
dr pitts

707
00:30:25,590 --> 00:30:23,440
worked on stuff for them uh a while ago

708
00:30:27,830 --> 00:30:25,600
i can't say for certain when it was but

709
00:30:29,029 --> 00:30:27,840
i've seen them in like um evaluation

710
00:30:31,669 --> 00:30:29,039
reports

711
00:30:33,990 --> 00:30:31,679
um years before this

712
00:30:35,029 --> 00:30:34,000
the interesting thing about this dr

713
00:30:37,029 --> 00:30:35,039
pitts

714
00:30:40,389 --> 00:30:37,039
is they hounded him he wouldn't return

715
00:30:43,990 --> 00:30:42,149
they basically stalked the guy called

716
00:30:46,630 --> 00:30:44,000
him every day

717
00:30:48,870 --> 00:30:46,640
until he said okay

718
00:30:50,789 --> 00:30:48,880
i'll look at the case which basically is

719
00:30:53,190 --> 00:30:50,799
just a few uh documents and the

720
00:30:54,789 --> 00:30:53,200
documents they treated then they spoke

721
00:30:57,509 --> 00:30:54,799
about it in

722
00:31:01,110 --> 00:30:57,519
the uh documents how sensitive they were

723
00:31:05,509 --> 00:31:03,990
it's very interesting and this dr pitts

724
00:31:08,149 --> 00:31:05,519
i looked him up a little bit and it

725
00:31:09,190 --> 00:31:08,159
turns out he at that time that he looked

726
00:31:11,269 --> 00:31:09,200
at this case and i'll get to the

727
00:31:12,870 --> 00:31:11,279
documents but at that time that he

728
00:31:15,509 --> 00:31:12,880
looked at this case

729
00:31:17,430 --> 00:31:15,519
he was part of this group

730
00:31:19,350 --> 00:31:17,440
i forget what the name of it is but this

731
00:31:20,389 --> 00:31:19,360
group of psychiatrists which is what he

732
00:31:24,950 --> 00:31:20,399
was

733
00:31:27,029 --> 00:31:24,960
integrate humans

734
00:31:29,110 --> 00:31:27,039
with technology

735
00:31:33,029 --> 00:31:29,120
you know so basically some of the things

736
00:31:36,789 --> 00:31:33,039
that he would do were to make like the

737
00:31:38,710 --> 00:31:36,799
um different uh pieces on a on a plane's

738
00:31:40,789 --> 00:31:38,720
dashboard you know

739
00:31:42,310 --> 00:31:40,799
um like the altitude and everything the

740
00:31:44,310 --> 00:31:42,320
meter is like where are they on the

741
00:31:46,870 --> 00:31:44,320
dashboard that are best suited for a

742
00:31:48,310 --> 00:31:46,880
human to capture all that in at the same

743
00:31:51,590 --> 00:31:48,320
time

744
00:31:53,669 --> 00:31:51,600
you know in designing it like that in

745
00:31:55,590 --> 00:31:53,679
uh acclimating humans with the

746
00:31:58,230 --> 00:31:55,600
technology they come up with and making

747
00:31:59,590 --> 00:31:58,240
it uh basically the best version of a

748
00:32:03,110 --> 00:31:59,600
human

749
00:32:06,630 --> 00:32:04,630
which is interesting and that's the

750
00:32:09,110 --> 00:32:06,640
psychiatrist

751
00:32:14,630 --> 00:32:11,669
they have look at this case

752
00:32:16,470 --> 00:32:14,640
of this air force guy who had close

753
00:32:19,029 --> 00:32:16,480
contact with

754
00:32:20,070 --> 00:32:19,039
four desks

755
00:32:22,950 --> 00:32:20,080
after

756
00:32:27,269 --> 00:32:25,110
now this video i'm going to show you

757
00:32:30,630 --> 00:32:27,279
it's just a real short video

758
00:32:33,190 --> 00:32:30,640
uh but it's basically a quick

759
00:32:40,789 --> 00:32:33,200
kind of description of uh what

760
00:32:45,269 --> 00:32:42,870
this kind of business is the unusually

761
00:32:46,710 --> 00:32:45,279
permissive atmosphere and the interest

762
00:32:49,110 --> 00:32:46,720
in ideas

763
00:32:51,029 --> 00:32:49,120
but their work isn't all guest work as

764
00:32:53,990 --> 00:32:51,039
shown by this experiment on the

765
00:32:56,230 --> 00:32:54,000
attention span needed for safe driving

766
00:32:58,950 --> 00:32:56,240
the experimenter is against director

767
00:33:02,389 --> 00:32:58,960
psychologist john sanders

768
00:33:04,950 --> 00:33:02,399
driving along the section of route 128

769
00:33:06,470 --> 00:33:04,960
and i'm trying to get an estimate of the

770
00:33:10,470 --> 00:33:06,480
demand driver

771
00:33:13,190 --> 00:33:10,480
by this particular section of road

772
00:33:16,230 --> 00:33:13,200
the speed of the car is constant

773
00:33:17,430 --> 00:33:16,240
and as the road varies from moment to

774
00:33:20,230 --> 00:33:17,440
moment

775
00:33:21,590 --> 00:33:20,240
in the demand that it makes upon me

776
00:33:22,789 --> 00:33:21,600
i must look

777
00:33:26,470 --> 00:33:22,799
more often

778
00:33:29,509 --> 00:33:26,480
or less often as the case may be

779
00:33:32,230 --> 00:33:29,519
the visor completely occludes my view

780
00:33:36,310 --> 00:33:32,240
during the period that it's down and i

781
00:33:39,190 --> 00:33:36,320
must rely on some stored image or memory

782
00:33:40,549 --> 00:33:39,200
of what the road was before the visor

783
00:33:42,950 --> 00:33:40,559
went down

784
00:33:44,870 --> 00:33:42,960
the half second look that i have is

785
00:33:46,470 --> 00:33:44,880
enough to restore

786
00:33:48,710 --> 00:33:46,480
all the information

787
00:33:50,870 --> 00:33:48,720
that i should need in order to drive

788
00:33:53,269 --> 00:33:50,880
down the road

789
00:33:55,350 --> 00:33:53,279
the records that we get over the time

790
00:33:57,830 --> 00:33:55,360
between looks at the road

791
00:33:59,669 --> 00:33:57,840
give us a direct measure

792
00:34:02,549 --> 00:33:59,679
of the difficulty

793
00:34:05,190 --> 00:34:02,559
presented to the driver by the road from

794
00:34:07,350 --> 00:34:05,200
moment to moment as we drive down it the

795
00:34:09,430 --> 00:34:07,360
shorter the interval between looks the

796
00:34:10,629 --> 00:34:09,440
more difficult that segment of road is

797
00:34:13,190 --> 00:34:10,639
to drive

798
00:34:15,510 --> 00:34:13,200
on those periods as you saw where the

799
00:34:16,950 --> 00:34:15,520
interval was very long the road was

800
00:34:20,149 --> 00:34:16,960
indeed easy

801
00:34:22,550 --> 00:34:20,159
the interval then gives us a direct and

802
00:34:26,389 --> 00:34:22,560
quantitative measure of this rather

803
00:34:29,030 --> 00:34:26,399
elusive thing called difficulty

804
00:34:32,389 --> 00:34:29,040
southwest bakersfield a 23 abc viewer

805
00:34:37,829 --> 00:34:35,510
good point

806
00:34:39,750 --> 00:34:37,839
sure sex is

807
00:34:40,180 --> 00:34:39,760
uh this method would not be approved

808
00:34:43,909 --> 00:34:40,190
today

809
00:34:45,750 --> 00:34:43,919
[Laughter]

810
00:34:47,909 --> 00:34:45,760
it's basically going blind back and

811
00:34:49,829 --> 00:34:47,919
forth to to test you know the memory

812
00:34:51,829 --> 00:34:49,839
that he has stored in his brain after

813
00:34:53,909 --> 00:34:51,839
looking at the thing so whatever that

814
00:34:55,589 --> 00:34:53,919
was just like a brief gist of of who

815
00:34:57,589 --> 00:34:55,599
this person is

816
00:34:58,630 --> 00:34:57,599
uh dr pitts that they

817
00:35:01,829 --> 00:34:58,640
had

818
00:35:04,390 --> 00:35:01,839
desperately got to look at this ufo case

819
00:35:05,750 --> 00:35:04,400
form interestingly enough it does make

820
00:35:08,150 --> 00:35:05,760
sense because

821
00:35:10,390 --> 00:35:08,160
uh this guy was

822
00:35:13,190 --> 00:35:10,400
at the

823
00:35:15,670 --> 00:35:13,200
university of ohio

824
00:35:17,349 --> 00:35:15,680
and that's

825
00:35:19,430 --> 00:35:17,359
someone that the air force did have a

826
00:35:23,190 --> 00:35:19,440
contract with so

827
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:28,310
now i kind of actually explained

828
00:35:34,870 --> 00:35:31,349
the whole case to you

829
00:35:35,829 --> 00:35:34,880
but i am going to just look at

830
00:35:39,910 --> 00:35:35,839
the

831
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:46,790
just to prove that i'm not full of [\h__\h]

832
00:35:49,670 --> 00:35:48,069
so

833
00:35:52,230 --> 00:35:49,680
this is his drawing

834
00:35:54,470 --> 00:35:52,240
this is dude's drawing

835
00:35:55,990 --> 00:35:54,480
it's memory sketch sighted near tanopa

836
00:35:59,990 --> 00:35:56,000
nevada if you're not familiar with

837
00:36:01,349 --> 00:36:00,000
tonova it's actually a very sensitive

838
00:36:03,270 --> 00:36:01,359
area

839
00:36:07,270 --> 00:36:03,280
at least it is now where they have a lot

840
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:12,950
so

841
00:36:17,750 --> 00:36:15,270
what i will do and they they basically

842
00:36:20,150 --> 00:36:17,760
were trying to get mr pitts and and they

843
00:36:22,470 --> 00:36:20,160
wound up uh succeeding getting mr pitts

844
00:36:23,430 --> 00:36:22,480
to say it was uh

845
00:36:25,589 --> 00:36:23,440
uh

846
00:36:27,750 --> 00:36:25,599
a mirage a

847
00:36:29,670 --> 00:36:27,760
psychotic type of thing

848
00:36:32,310 --> 00:36:29,680
which is just uh

849
00:36:34,150 --> 00:36:32,320
very unfortunate but the main thing here

850
00:36:35,589 --> 00:36:34,160
you know a couple other main things i

851
00:36:37,589 --> 00:36:35,599
guess you could say is

852
00:36:40,550 --> 00:36:37,599
you can see here

853
00:36:42,630 --> 00:36:40,560
request a discrete full-scale osi

854
00:36:45,270 --> 00:36:42,640
investigation of lieutenant long's

855
00:36:47,349 --> 00:36:45,280
actions whereabouts tendencies physical

856
00:36:49,510 --> 00:36:47,359
and mental condition and other aspects

857
00:36:50,950 --> 00:36:49,520
for the period proceeding in sighting to

858
00:36:52,829 --> 00:36:50,960
provide the air force with further

859
00:36:56,550 --> 00:36:52,839
factual or confirming information

860
00:36:58,230 --> 00:36:56,560
necessary to form more valid conclusions

861
00:37:01,910 --> 00:36:58,240
consequences if the investigation

862
00:37:04,870 --> 00:37:01,920
supports the fatigue road hypnosis

863
00:37:06,630 --> 00:37:04,880
optical illusion hypothesis

864
00:37:09,270 --> 00:37:06,640
what the hell is that

865
00:37:10,870 --> 00:37:09,280
by the way officer would probably accept

866
00:37:14,390 --> 00:37:10,880
the findings in the air force

867
00:37:16,470 --> 00:37:14,400
conclusions would be strengthened

868
00:37:18,710 --> 00:37:16,480
if investigations disclose deliberate

869
00:37:21,510 --> 00:37:18,720
attempts at hoaxes exaggeration or

870
00:37:23,190 --> 00:37:21,520
publicity seeking for personal gain at a

871
00:37:25,430 --> 00:37:23,200
later date legal action against the

872
00:37:28,630 --> 00:37:25,440
officer might be necessary

873
00:37:31,030 --> 00:37:28,640
so that's what we're talking about

874
00:37:32,310 --> 00:37:31,040
right when people say

875
00:37:34,390 --> 00:37:32,320
that

876
00:37:38,390 --> 00:37:34,400
you know air force folks or whatever

877
00:37:40,470 --> 00:37:38,400
like uh reported citing

878
00:37:42,470 --> 00:37:40,480
look at this

879
00:37:44,710 --> 00:37:42,480
if investigations disclose deliberate

880
00:37:47,109 --> 00:37:44,720
attempts at hoax's exaggerations or

881
00:37:49,349 --> 00:37:47,119
publicity seeking for personal gain at a

882
00:37:51,910 --> 00:37:49,359
later date legal action against the

883
00:37:53,829 --> 00:37:51,920
officer might be necessary

884
00:37:55,510 --> 00:37:53,839
with probable adverse publicity to the

885
00:37:57,750 --> 00:37:55,520
air force as well as an opportunity for

886
00:38:02,150 --> 00:37:57,760
ufo clubs desiring to exploit the

887
00:38:05,910 --> 00:38:03,430
i don't know if you hear that but that's

888
00:38:09,190 --> 00:38:05,920
my dog barking

889
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:11,670
so

890
00:38:14,630 --> 00:38:13,430
like robert says those are the only two

891
00:38:16,069 --> 00:38:14,640
options

892
00:38:17,589 --> 00:38:16,079
you know

893
00:38:20,470 --> 00:38:17,599
so either

894
00:38:22,870 --> 00:38:20,480
the guy is trying to seek publicity

895
00:38:34,950 --> 00:38:25,990
he's got fatigue road hypnosis optical

896
00:38:41,190 --> 00:38:37,270
and basically they're sweating

897
00:38:46,630 --> 00:38:43,190
to basically

898
00:38:48,310 --> 00:38:46,640
find a way to discredit him

899
00:38:50,390 --> 00:38:48,320
an hour by our accountability of the

900
00:38:52,069 --> 00:38:50,400
72-hour period preceding the alleged

901
00:38:54,069 --> 00:38:52,079
sighting with full consideration given

902
00:38:57,510 --> 00:38:54,079
to those points specifically

903
00:39:03,829 --> 00:38:57,520
recommended in dr uh pitts or is it fits

904
00:39:07,990 --> 00:39:05,750
number five this matter is concert

905
00:39:09,990 --> 00:39:08,000
considered urgent for the manifold

906
00:39:12,150 --> 00:39:10,000
reasons found in the attached case file

907
00:39:16,230 --> 00:39:12,160
it particularly if subject officer

908
00:39:17,990 --> 00:39:16,240
completes his tour of duty or otherwise

909
00:39:19,990 --> 00:39:18,000
severs his relations with the air force

910
00:39:28,990 --> 00:39:20,000
before investigations to determine the

911
00:39:32,550 --> 00:39:30,870
[Music]

912
00:39:34,150 --> 00:39:32,560
in brief the incident involved subject

913
00:39:35,670 --> 00:39:34,160
officer who claims to have made close

914
00:39:37,670 --> 00:39:35,680
contact with what is commonly referred

915
00:39:39,430 --> 00:39:37,680
to as flying saucers a formal

916
00:39:41,190 --> 00:39:39,440
investigation requested by the center

917
00:39:43,750 --> 00:39:41,200
disclosed that subject officer left

918
00:39:45,589 --> 00:39:43,760
immediately upon completing the united

919
00:39:48,470 --> 00:39:45,599
states air force survival school at

920
00:39:50,470 --> 00:39:48,480
stead air force base traveled all night

921
00:39:52,550 --> 00:39:50,480
in route to las vegas and encountered

922
00:39:54,470 --> 00:39:52,560
the alleged objects the following day in

923
00:39:57,030 --> 00:39:54,480
this respect the case may be considered

924
00:39:59,349 --> 00:39:57,040
somewhat unprecedented the officer is a

925
00:40:01,510 --> 00:39:59,359
fighter pilot who is assumed to be

926
00:40:02,870 --> 00:40:01,520
familiar with both current and projected

927
00:40:04,950 --> 00:40:02,880
aircraft

928
00:40:06,950 --> 00:40:04,960
missile and helicopter designs as well

929
00:40:09,190 --> 00:40:06,960
as aerial phenomena that is often

930
00:40:10,390 --> 00:40:09,200
mistaken for unusual or unconventional

931
00:40:13,430 --> 00:40:10,400
airborne objects

932
00:40:17,190 --> 00:40:13,440
yet insisting in official testimony to

933
00:40:19,910 --> 00:40:17,200
have made the contact in question

934
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:26,230
boom

935
00:40:26,240 --> 00:40:41,349
there it is

936
00:40:41,359 --> 00:40:45,829
so everything else is kind of rehash

937
00:40:48,790 --> 00:40:47,270
in this respect this case may be

938
00:40:50,150 --> 00:40:48,800
considered somewhat unprecedented here

939
00:40:51,910 --> 00:40:50,160
we have a fighter pilot familiar with

940
00:40:53,670 --> 00:40:51,920
current and seemingly projected aircraft

941
00:40:56,710 --> 00:40:53,680
and missile designs considered

942
00:40:59,030 --> 00:40:56,720
completely reliable

943
00:41:00,069 --> 00:40:59,040
claiming close contact with the objects

944
00:41:01,990 --> 00:41:00,079
a question

945
00:41:03,829 --> 00:41:02,000
an official testimony and they're

946
00:41:07,430 --> 00:41:03,839
thinking about what they can do to

947
00:41:08,710 --> 00:41:07,440
discredit him

948
00:41:09,910 --> 00:41:08,720
if they can't

949
00:41:13,990 --> 00:41:09,920
take

950
00:41:22,069 --> 00:41:16,470
interesting

951
00:41:26,150 --> 00:41:23,910
because it's just

952
00:41:28,470 --> 00:41:26,160
yeah robert's got it so it's dr fitz not

953
00:41:31,190 --> 00:41:28,480
pits i i say uh

954
00:41:33,430 --> 00:41:31,200
probably dr pitts because uh seinfeld mr

955
00:41:35,190 --> 00:41:33,440
pitt probably

956
00:41:36,309 --> 00:41:35,200
but dr fitz

957
00:41:40,309 --> 00:41:36,319
yeah

958
00:41:41,589 --> 00:41:40,319
you know here this guy has this crazy

959
00:41:44,550 --> 00:41:41,599
encounter

960
00:41:46,150 --> 00:41:44,560
with four deaths he's a fighter pilot

961
00:41:48,309 --> 00:41:46,160
air force admits

962
00:41:50,309 --> 00:41:48,319
is unprecedented because this guy is

963
00:41:52,870 --> 00:41:50,319
familiar with all sorts of

964
00:41:55,589 --> 00:41:52,880
aircraft even projected aircraft they

965
00:41:57,910 --> 00:41:55,599
said aircraft that is projected to be in

966
00:41:58,950 --> 00:41:57,920
the skies eventually familiar with it

967
00:42:01,109 --> 00:41:58,960
missiles

968
00:42:04,630 --> 00:42:01,119
balloons everything

969
00:42:08,150 --> 00:42:04,640
still has this encounter and reports it

970
00:42:10,550 --> 00:42:08,160
makes legal testimony of it

971
00:42:12,470 --> 00:42:10,560
and they they can't handle it

972
00:42:13,829 --> 00:42:12,480
they make an emergency call to this dr

973
00:42:15,349 --> 00:42:13,839
fitz now why didn't they get hynek

974
00:42:19,109 --> 00:42:15,359
involved why did they get

975
00:42:24,069 --> 00:42:21,750
why do they have to go to this person

976
00:42:26,470 --> 00:42:24,079
the psychiatrist

977
00:42:27,829 --> 00:42:26,480
in an emergency

978
00:42:29,510 --> 00:42:27,839
hassle the guy

979
00:42:34,710 --> 00:42:29,520
sweat the guys

980
00:42:38,470 --> 00:42:36,950
to discredit him

981
00:42:39,829 --> 00:42:38,480
maybe because

982
00:42:43,030 --> 00:42:39,839
heinick

983
00:42:46,630 --> 00:42:44,790
i don't know maybe you would maybe

984
00:42:48,069 --> 00:42:46,640
wouldn't i don't know

985
00:42:49,510 --> 00:42:48,079
but that's the kind of stuff that's been

986
00:42:50,870 --> 00:42:49,520
hidden from us for

987
00:42:52,630 --> 00:42:50,880
too long

988
00:42:57,190 --> 00:42:52,640
we look at these cases with fraver and

989
00:43:02,790 --> 00:43:00,390
but never forget

990
00:43:05,190 --> 00:43:02,800
that this stuff

991
00:43:08,710 --> 00:43:05,200
is old

992
00:43:11,910 --> 00:43:10,390
you know

993
00:43:13,829 --> 00:43:11,920
i think if most people knew that and

994
00:43:17,109 --> 00:43:13,839
were aware of that it would be more

995
00:43:18,150 --> 00:43:17,119
irritated and demand more transparency

996
00:43:18,870 --> 00:43:18,160
right

997
00:43:20,790 --> 00:43:18,880
so

998
00:43:22,470 --> 00:43:20,800
that's my show

999
00:43:25,109 --> 00:43:22,480
that being said we're going to

1000
00:43:29,270 --> 00:43:25,119
transition to a different part

1001
00:43:33,990 --> 00:43:31,349
and

1002
00:43:35,270 --> 00:43:34,000
we're going to play

1003
00:43:37,190 --> 00:43:35,280
it's going to be going to be on the same

1004
00:43:40,230 --> 00:43:37,200
tip we're going to play somebody

1005
00:43:42,550 --> 00:43:40,240
who's veteran pilot

1006
00:43:45,589 --> 00:43:42,560
went up and looked at this ufo

1007
00:43:48,790 --> 00:43:45,599
i think it was with other veteran pilots

1008
00:43:50,630 --> 00:43:48,800
it's going to be audio testimony

1009
00:43:52,230 --> 00:43:50,640
i put some of the documents over the top

1010
00:43:54,950 --> 00:43:52,240
because i found this testimony separate

1011
00:43:58,309 --> 00:43:54,960
then i went in blue book

1012
00:44:01,030 --> 00:43:58,319
and found the actual documents

1013
00:44:02,870 --> 00:44:01,040
so i pasted them and edited edited them

1014
00:44:04,309 --> 00:44:02,880
to make you know just make a little

1015
00:44:06,069 --> 00:44:04,319
video while you listen to the guy so you

1016
00:44:08,550 --> 00:44:06,079
can check that out if you want

1017
00:44:09,589 --> 00:44:08,560
after that we'll do what the heck is

1018
00:44:11,270 --> 00:44:09,599
that

1019
00:44:15,109 --> 00:44:11,280
so i'll be back it's about three and a

1020
00:44:19,910 --> 00:44:17,829
airport manager lake wells

1021
00:44:22,230 --> 00:44:19,920
wednesday afternoon at approximately

1022
00:44:25,990 --> 00:44:22,240
three o'clock i received a phone call

1023
00:44:27,670 --> 00:44:26,000
from an observer in lake wales

1024
00:44:30,309 --> 00:44:27,680
telling me that there was

1025
00:44:32,550 --> 00:44:30,319
an object in the sky at what he figured

1026
00:44:33,510 --> 00:44:32,560
was 20 000 feet

1027
00:44:46,390 --> 00:44:33,520
i

1028
00:44:50,150 --> 00:44:46,400
balloon

1029
00:44:52,870 --> 00:44:50,160
orlando radio had nothing reported

1030
00:44:54,870 --> 00:44:52,880
in the area and since it is practiced to

1031
00:44:56,470 --> 00:44:54,880
report these balloons

1032
00:44:58,710 --> 00:44:56,480
we decided that

1033
00:45:00,550 --> 00:44:58,720
we would go up and take a look at this

1034
00:45:01,430 --> 00:45:00,560
object

1035
00:45:02,829 --> 00:45:01,440
we

1036
00:45:06,069 --> 00:45:02,839
entered the piper

1037
00:45:08,870 --> 00:45:06,079
apache aircraft to an engine

1038
00:45:10,470 --> 00:45:08,880
and proceeded to climb up to try and

1039
00:45:14,230 --> 00:45:10,480
view this object

1040
00:45:16,309 --> 00:45:14,240
we climbed to 16 500 feet

1041
00:45:20,309 --> 00:45:16,319
over haines city

1042
00:45:24,150 --> 00:45:20,319
and had the object in view all the time

1043
00:45:25,589 --> 00:45:24,160
at 16 500 feet the object appeared to be

1044
00:45:28,230 --> 00:45:25,599
50 to

1045
00:45:29,270 --> 00:45:28,240
60 000 feet above us

1046
00:45:31,750 --> 00:45:29,280
we

1047
00:45:34,069 --> 00:45:31,760
kept the object in sight circling it at

1048
00:45:35,990 --> 00:45:34,079
all times thereby

1049
00:45:37,990 --> 00:45:36,000
eliminating the chance possibility that

1050
00:45:42,230 --> 00:45:38,000
it might be a star

1051
00:45:45,510 --> 00:45:42,240
upon receiving a upper winds report

1052
00:45:47,910 --> 00:45:45,520
giving us winds that got at 50 000 feet

1053
00:45:48,950 --> 00:45:47,920
of 22 knots

1054
00:45:50,950 --> 00:45:48,960
we

1055
00:45:52,870 --> 00:45:50,960
disqualified the chance that it might be

1056
00:45:55,750 --> 00:45:52,880
a weather balloon because of the fact

1057
00:45:57,349 --> 00:45:55,760
that at 22 knots wind

1058
00:45:58,950 --> 00:45:57,359
a weather balloon would have been

1059
00:46:01,829 --> 00:45:58,960
drifting and this object stayed

1060
00:46:04,309 --> 00:46:01,839
stationary directly over haines city for

1061
00:46:05,430 --> 00:46:04,319
more than two hours as we were up from 3

1062
00:46:06,550 --> 00:46:05,440
30

1063
00:46:09,910 --> 00:46:06,560
until

1064
00:46:11,510 --> 00:46:09,920
almost six o'clock circling this object

1065
00:46:12,710 --> 00:46:11,520
the object appeared

1066
00:46:17,190 --> 00:46:12,720
to have

1067
00:46:21,589 --> 00:46:19,349
fuselage type

1068
00:46:24,630 --> 00:46:21,599
design

1069
00:46:25,589 --> 00:46:24,640
it appeared to be oblong in shape

1070
00:46:29,589 --> 00:46:25,599
the

1071
00:46:31,430 --> 00:46:29,599
object was not visible at all times

1072
00:46:33,510 --> 00:46:31,440
probably due to

1073
00:46:35,510 --> 00:46:33,520
sunlight reflection

1074
00:46:37,349 --> 00:46:35,520
we discount the fact that it was could

1075
00:46:39,190 --> 00:46:37,359
have been a weather balloon

1076
00:46:41,190 --> 00:46:39,200
due to the fact that

1077
00:46:43,910 --> 00:46:41,200
the object was much too shiny weather

1078
00:46:45,990 --> 00:46:43,920
balloons are coated dull with a

1079
00:46:48,630 --> 00:46:46,000
powdery effect so that they will not

1080
00:46:51,349 --> 00:46:48,640
shine and reflect

1081
00:46:53,030 --> 00:46:51,359
we've uh all the people in the aircraft

1082
00:46:54,150 --> 00:46:53,040
with me at

1083
00:46:56,710 --> 00:46:54,160
during this

1084
00:46:58,630 --> 00:46:56,720
time were licensed pilots have been

1085
00:47:00,069 --> 00:46:58,640
flying for many years

1086
00:47:02,390 --> 00:47:00,079
and have seen

1087
00:47:05,190 --> 00:47:02,400
many such weather balloons

1088
00:47:08,069 --> 00:47:05,200
and therefore we discount the weather

1089
00:47:10,470 --> 00:47:08,079
balloon theory on the basis of our own

1090
00:47:13,510 --> 00:47:10,480
past experience

1091
00:47:15,990 --> 00:47:13,520
we kept the object in sight until

1092
00:47:17,510 --> 00:47:16,000
approximately 5

1093
00:47:18,950 --> 00:47:17,520
42

1094
00:47:20,870 --> 00:47:18,960
at which time

1095
00:47:22,470 --> 00:47:20,880
the object appeared to be ascending

1096
00:47:23,670 --> 00:47:22,480
rapidly

1097
00:47:26,150 --> 00:47:23,680
and

1098
00:47:28,309 --> 00:47:26,160
on our next circle of the object it had

1099
00:47:30,309 --> 00:47:28,319
completely disappeared

1100
00:47:32,790 --> 00:47:30,319
there appeared to be no descent

1101
00:47:39,109 --> 00:47:32,800
whatsoever to the object

1102
00:47:43,750 --> 00:47:41,030
pretty crazy i mean and that's just

1103
00:47:45,990 --> 00:47:43,760
another instance of

1104
00:47:47,750 --> 00:47:46,000
you know forget the testimony forget the

1105
00:47:51,109 --> 00:47:47,760
witness testimony

1106
00:47:55,190 --> 00:47:52,870
how in the world could it be a strange

1107
00:47:57,990 --> 00:47:55,200
object it must be a balloon even though

1108
00:48:04,150 --> 00:48:01,430
you know says him and these other pilots

1109
00:48:05,829 --> 00:48:04,160
they're going around these places flying

1110
00:48:09,750 --> 00:48:05,839
all the time they're familiar with the

1111
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:13,190
it's not that men

1112
00:48:21,109 --> 00:48:15,510
doesn't matter

1113
00:48:24,069 --> 00:48:23,030
so

1114
00:48:24,910 --> 00:48:24,079
you know

1115
00:48:26,549 --> 00:48:24,920
what can you do

1116
00:48:28,309 --> 00:48:26,559
[Laughter]

1117
00:48:29,510 --> 00:48:28,319
what are you gonna do

1118
00:48:31,990 --> 00:48:29,520
uh

1119
00:48:34,150 --> 00:48:32,000
i don't know it is frustrating though

1120
00:48:38,390 --> 00:48:34,160
all right so

1121
00:48:39,910 --> 00:48:38,400
it is that time of the show

1122
00:48:42,390 --> 00:48:39,920
where we sit back and we have a little

1123
00:48:44,710 --> 00:48:42,400
fun we look at some strange stuff

1124
00:48:46,580 --> 00:48:44,720
and we try to decide

1125
00:48:54,240 --> 00:48:46,590
what the heck it is

1126
00:48:54,250 --> 00:48:59,670
[Music]

1127
00:49:04,549 --> 00:49:02,309
you know that's a good point uh andre's

1128
00:49:07,910 --> 00:49:04,559
balloon it's default explanation i don't

1129
00:49:09,990 --> 00:49:07,920
know balloon and we looked at those nsa

1130
00:49:11,750 --> 00:49:10,000
documents uh

1131
00:49:12,630 --> 00:49:11,760
you know maybe was it last week or

1132
00:49:15,670 --> 00:49:12,640
something

1133
00:49:19,829 --> 00:49:15,680
every like not the ones i showed you but

1134
00:49:21,990 --> 00:49:19,839
i picked out ones from hundreds

1135
00:49:24,390 --> 00:49:22,000
because every time

1136
00:49:26,630 --> 00:49:24,400
without fail probably balloon

1137
00:49:29,510 --> 00:49:26,640
every time i should bring those up just

1138
00:49:31,190 --> 00:49:29,520
so we can make fun of it one day

1139
00:49:33,109 --> 00:49:31,200
probably balloon probably balloon

1140
00:49:35,910 --> 00:49:33,119
probably blue one probably blowing it's

1141
00:49:39,349 --> 00:49:37,829
damn man

1142
00:49:41,030 --> 00:49:39,359
so

1143
00:49:42,790 --> 00:49:41,040
back to the best part i

1144
00:49:44,549 --> 00:49:42,800
put this one on twitter and actually got

1145
00:49:46,390 --> 00:49:44,559
a lot of attention

1146
00:49:48,710 --> 00:49:46,400
although most people seem to decide that

1147
00:49:51,030 --> 00:49:48,720
this is just a bug

1148
00:49:55,430 --> 00:49:51,040
i can't say what it is you know i don't

1149
00:49:58,790 --> 00:49:56,950
at the end

1150
00:50:03,670 --> 00:49:58,800
you should be asking what the heck is

1151
00:50:09,030 --> 00:50:06,470
southwest bakersfield a 23abc viewer

1152
00:50:11,349 --> 00:50:09,040
sent this to our newsroom you tell us

1153
00:50:12,790 --> 00:50:11,359
what you think it is right here ready

1154
00:50:14,549 --> 00:50:12,800
right there

1155
00:50:16,230 --> 00:50:14,559
bakersfield resident tim harvey sent it

1156
00:50:18,390 --> 00:50:16,240
from his ring camera he lives in hagen

1157
00:50:20,870 --> 00:50:18,400
oaks off ming and versailles drive says

1158
00:50:22,790 --> 00:50:20,880
that the object descended from the south

1159
00:50:24,230 --> 00:50:22,800
beyond the trees

1160
00:50:26,230 --> 00:50:24,240
and as you could see it in that video

1161
00:50:26,950 --> 00:50:26,240
then sort of whips through the sky right

1162
00:50:28,549 --> 00:50:26,960
there

1163
00:50:31,829 --> 00:50:28,559
in an instant

1164
00:50:33,349 --> 00:50:31,839
leaving some kind of trail behind

1165
00:50:35,190 --> 00:50:33,359
could it be a video effect or something

1166
00:50:37,349 --> 00:50:35,200
i don't know bpd and the ufo research

1167
00:50:38,790 --> 00:50:37,359
center have apparently been alerted

1168
00:50:41,510 --> 00:50:38,800
one more time

1169
00:50:43,910 --> 00:50:41,520
both are stumped right there

1170
00:50:48,470 --> 00:50:43,920
by the video

1171
00:50:53,750 --> 00:50:51,270
what is that six on your side had their

1172
00:50:55,910 --> 00:50:53,760
boots on the ground tonight after dozens

1173
00:50:58,390 --> 00:50:55,920
of distant sightings we had two

1174
00:51:00,549 --> 00:50:58,400
back-to-back close encounters of the

1175
00:51:03,030 --> 00:51:00,559
mysterious drones that flew less than

1176
00:51:08,230 --> 00:51:03,040
100 feet above our heads

1177
00:51:12,710 --> 00:51:11,349
it's a v it's got a v it's like

1178
00:51:15,030 --> 00:51:12,720
what the heck

1179
00:51:16,630 --> 00:51:15,040
most drones we saw stayed well away

1180
00:51:19,750 --> 00:51:16,640
hundreds of feet in the air and were

1181
00:51:21,589 --> 00:51:19,760
moving around 50 miles an hour according

1182
00:51:23,349 --> 00:51:21,599
to deputy kennebeck definitely it

1183
00:51:25,829 --> 00:51:23,359
definitely raises curiosity because it's

1184
00:51:27,750 --> 00:51:25,839
something i've never seen either

1185
00:51:29,190 --> 00:51:27,760
patrolling the county it's dark and you

1186
00:51:31,670 --> 00:51:29,200
see stars all the time you see something

1187
00:51:33,190 --> 00:51:31,680
in the sky that looks different

1188
00:51:34,870 --> 00:51:33,200
definitely raises

1189
00:51:37,750 --> 00:51:34,880
curiosity

1190
00:51:40,150 --> 00:51:37,760
then back to back

1191
00:51:42,710 --> 00:51:40,160
two drones we believe to be between four

1192
00:51:45,750 --> 00:51:42,720
and six feet flew close enough over our

1193
00:51:48,309 --> 00:51:45,760
heads we could hear this

1194
00:51:50,470 --> 00:51:48,319
that is wild that one looked bigger too

1195
00:51:52,870 --> 00:51:50,480
we adjusted the brightness and contrast

1196
00:51:55,829 --> 00:51:52,880
and slowed down the video and it appears

1197
00:51:58,470 --> 00:51:55,839
to be plain shaped witnesses we spoke to

1198
00:52:00,230 --> 00:51:58,480
are not fearful even though they say as

1199
00:52:01,910 --> 00:52:00,240
soon as they pulled out cameras the

1200
00:52:04,470 --> 00:52:01,920
drones would turn off their lights and

1201
00:52:06,549 --> 00:52:04,480
move away they just want to know why

1202
00:52:18,230 --> 00:52:06,559
they're hovering and flying over rural

1203
00:52:23,510 --> 00:52:20,790
spotted in the night sky orange light

1204
00:52:26,069 --> 00:52:23,520
again an orange light glowing brightly

1205
00:52:28,710 --> 00:52:26,079
and moving quickly from the southwest

1206
00:52:31,430 --> 00:52:28,720
headed northeast what is that whatever

1207
00:52:33,750 --> 00:52:31,440
that was was captured in this video by

1208
00:52:35,190 --> 00:52:33,760
kyle resident sal sanchez and i was

1209
00:52:37,030 --> 00:52:35,200
recording it the whole time just

1210
00:52:39,030 --> 00:52:37,040
thinking

1211
00:52:41,190 --> 00:52:39,040
what is this thing this was taken late

1212
00:52:43,510 --> 00:52:41,200
last month but it's not the first or

1213
00:52:46,309 --> 00:52:43,520
only time he's seen it the first time

1214
00:52:48,790 --> 00:52:46,319
was in january it looks like a fireball

1215
00:52:51,270 --> 00:52:48,800
but with no noise though he doesn't have

1216
00:52:53,510 --> 00:52:51,280
it on video he says this sunday night

1217
00:52:55,190 --> 00:52:53,520
was the most dramatic lights show like

1218
00:52:56,870 --> 00:52:55,200
he wouldn't believe i mean you have to

1219
00:52:59,190 --> 00:52:56,880
have been here to see it one right after

1220
00:53:01,990 --> 00:52:59,200
another sanchez says from what he's seen

1221
00:53:03,750 --> 00:53:02,000
and heard or not heard there's no way

1222
00:53:05,030 --> 00:53:03,760
it's a drone so many videos that are out

1223
00:53:06,390 --> 00:53:05,040
there that

1224
00:53:09,750 --> 00:53:06,400
depict the same thing that i've been

1225
00:53:11,910 --> 00:53:09,760
seeing we decided to reach out to ufo

1226
00:53:15,430 --> 00:53:11,920
jane been doing this for over 10 years

1227
00:53:17,990 --> 00:53:15,440
i've seen a lot a texas ufologist who

1228
00:53:20,950 --> 00:53:18,000
started documenting ufo sightings across

1229
00:53:23,030 --> 00:53:20,960
the state online this video intrigued me

1230
00:53:25,030 --> 00:53:23,040
i first thought maybe this is a chinese

1231
00:53:27,670 --> 00:53:25,040
lantern but it is definitely not it

1232
00:53:29,030 --> 00:53:27,680
doesn't the videos for over a minute the

1233
00:53:32,150 --> 00:53:29,040
light is

1234
00:53:34,630 --> 00:53:32,160
solid the whole time she says she can't

1235
00:53:37,190 --> 00:53:34,640
rule out a drone but she also can't say

1236
00:53:39,910 --> 00:53:37,200
for certain that it is i can say that

1237
00:53:42,549 --> 00:53:39,920
people have seen objects like this

1238
00:53:44,150 --> 00:53:42,559
you know before 2006. i 10 news went

1239
00:53:45,750 --> 00:53:44,160
looking for answers after someone

1240
00:53:47,750 --> 00:53:45,760
snapped these pictures of an

1241
00:53:50,470 --> 00:53:47,760
unidentified object flying over the san

1242
00:53:51,829 --> 00:53:50,480
diego skyline now take a closer look at

1243
00:53:53,589 --> 00:53:51,839
the left-hand corner of your screen you

1244
00:53:57,109 --> 00:53:53,599
can see something there in the sky and

1245
00:53:59,109 --> 00:53:57,119
some are calling it santees area 51.

1246
00:54:01,030 --> 00:53:59,119
tennis reporter janet koch explains why

1247
00:54:04,309 --> 00:54:01,040
one local photographer says she has

1248
00:54:06,230 --> 00:54:04,319
proof we're not alone

1249
00:54:08,150 --> 00:54:06,240
one santee woman tells us her camera

1250
00:54:10,390 --> 00:54:08,160
broke just moments after she snapped

1251
00:54:12,390 --> 00:54:10,400
these photos of the object at this

1252
00:54:14,870 --> 00:54:12,400
historical barn that has some people

1253
00:54:17,190 --> 00:54:14,880
wondering about visitors from far far

1254
00:54:21,750 --> 00:54:20,230
it was tuesday on the afternoon

1255
00:54:23,750 --> 00:54:21,760
it was may 7th

1256
00:54:25,910 --> 00:54:23,760
when i zoomed on it more and then it was

1257
00:54:27,670 --> 00:54:25,920
clear it was certainly not a bug ellen

1258
00:54:29,990 --> 00:54:27,680
henry is convinced whatever she saw

1259
00:54:32,069 --> 00:54:30,000
hovering over santee's edgemoor barn is

1260
00:54:33,910 --> 00:54:32,079
not from this world she didn't want to

1261
00:54:35,510 --> 00:54:33,920
show us her face because she says she's

1262
00:54:38,150 --> 00:54:35,520
still a little spooked by what her

1263
00:54:39,670 --> 00:54:38,160
camera captured what was it doing there

1264
00:54:41,030 --> 00:54:39,680
why was it there

1265
00:54:42,470 --> 00:54:41,040
you know what was it doing and i said

1266
00:54:45,030 --> 00:54:42,480
next time i come back the barn will be

1267
00:54:47,109 --> 00:54:45,040
beamed up

1268
00:54:49,349 --> 00:54:47,119
the barn sits under several flight paths

1269
00:54:51,109 --> 00:54:49,359
we called gillespie field and mcas

1270
00:54:53,109 --> 00:54:51,119
miramar neither could offer an

1271
00:54:54,870 --> 00:54:53,119
explanation there's no mysterious

1272
00:54:57,349 --> 00:54:54,880
objects flying above the barn tonight

1273
00:54:59,109 --> 00:54:57,359
but what some say flew overhead

1274
00:55:01,030 --> 00:54:59,119
is not out of the ordinary considering

1275
00:55:03,030 --> 00:55:01,040
what happens here below

1276
00:55:04,630 --> 00:55:03,040
we think somebody's come into the barn

1277
00:55:07,030 --> 00:55:04,640
and we get up to look and there's nobody

1278
00:55:09,430 --> 00:55:07,040
there cnt historical society which

1279
00:55:11,589 --> 00:55:09,440
oversees the barn turned museum says the

1280
00:55:14,069 --> 00:55:11,599
property used to be part of a poor farm

1281
00:55:16,230 --> 00:55:14,079
and hospital grounds drawing paranormal

1282
00:55:19,030 --> 00:55:16,240
investigators here for ghost sightings

1283
00:55:22,150 --> 00:55:19,040
enough to keep a ghost log but the idea

1284
00:55:23,990 --> 00:55:22,160
of a ufo hovering over a haunted barn

1285
00:55:26,230 --> 00:55:24,000
maybe a little area 51 thing going on

1286
00:55:28,870 --> 00:55:26,240
here yeah to strange it would choose cnt

1287
00:55:30,309 --> 00:55:28,880
over anything else in the world you know

1288
00:55:32,230 --> 00:55:30,319
i do believe we're not alone out here

1289
00:55:35,190 --> 00:55:32,240
that's for sure

1290
00:55:36,630 --> 00:55:35,200
doesn't it janet kwok 10 news i do

1291
00:55:39,030 --> 00:55:36,640
believe it all right we checked with the

1292
00:55:41,190 --> 00:55:39,040
national ufo reporting center there has

1293
00:55:43,589 --> 00:55:41,200
only been one other ufo sighting in san

1294
00:55:46,069 --> 00:55:43,599
diego this month and for another look at

1295
00:55:48,789 --> 00:55:46,079
that unidentified flying object you can

1296
00:55:50,710 --> 00:55:48,799
go to our website 10news.com

1297
00:55:52,710 --> 00:55:50,720
outside just give yourself that little

1298
00:55:54,309 --> 00:55:52,720
that little bit of extra time for your

1299
00:55:56,789 --> 00:55:54,319
morning but here's a look at how things

1300
00:55:59,589 --> 00:55:56,799
are doing on 95 and emerson things are

1301
00:56:01,109 --> 00:55:59,599
smooth earlier there was a minor crash

1302
00:56:02,390 --> 00:56:01,119
there that was blocking the shoulder but

1303
00:56:04,150 --> 00:56:02,400
as you can see here northbound

1304
00:56:05,270 --> 00:56:04,160
southbound looking better than ever safe

1305
00:56:07,430 --> 00:56:05,280
travels and that's a look at your keith

1306
00:56:08,950 --> 00:56:07,440
christian toyota for your morning but

1307
00:56:12,150 --> 00:56:08,960
here's a look at how things are doing on

1308
00:56:14,470 --> 00:56:12,160
95 and emerson things are smooth earlier

1309
00:56:16,470 --> 00:56:14,480
they're tied for your morning but here's

1310
00:56:19,270 --> 00:56:16,480
a look at how things are doing on 95 and

1311
00:56:21,030 --> 00:56:19,280
emerson things are smooth earlier there

1312
00:56:22,549 --> 00:56:21,040
was a minor crash there that was

1313
00:56:24,710 --> 00:56:22,559
blocking the shoulder but as you a

1314
00:56:26,230 --> 00:56:24,720
little that little bit of extra time for

1315
00:56:28,230 --> 00:56:26,240
your morning but here's a look at how

1316
00:56:31,510 --> 00:56:28,240
things are doing on 95 and emerson

1317
00:56:34,309 --> 00:56:31,520
things are smooth only on news 5. a

1318
00:56:36,309 --> 00:56:34,319
family from custer county had several of

1319
00:56:38,950 --> 00:56:36,319
their animals die all within a short

1320
00:56:41,190 --> 00:56:38,960
period of time their search for animals

1321
00:56:42,870 --> 00:56:41,200
led them to contact a renowned ufo

1322
00:56:44,390 --> 00:56:42,880
investigator who's based in colorado

1323
00:56:46,230 --> 00:56:44,400
springs and he met with our andy cohen

1324
00:56:48,549 --> 00:56:46,240
just outside of west cliff for this

1325
00:56:50,789 --> 00:56:48,559
story about what might be happening to

1326
00:56:52,710 --> 00:56:50,799
animals in southern colorado

1327
00:56:54,630 --> 00:56:52,720
early this spring thomas walker had a

1328
00:56:57,510 --> 00:56:54,640
half dozen animals on his land outside

1329
00:57:00,390 --> 00:56:57,520
west cliff four of them died within days

1330
00:57:02,630 --> 00:57:00,400
pig was first i'm sorry okay uh

1331
00:57:04,870 --> 00:57:02,640
then two goats

1332
00:57:06,630 --> 00:57:04,880
then my mare a couple weeks later a

1333
00:57:27,750 --> 00:57:06,640
steer that his grandson was raising for

1334
00:57:32,230 --> 00:57:29,829
now to thomas was how they all looked

1335
00:57:33,589 --> 00:57:32,240
after they died i have never seen any

1336
00:57:36,710 --> 00:57:33,599
animal

1337
00:57:38,950 --> 00:57:36,720
just fall over dead and no scratch mark

1338
00:57:41,190 --> 00:57:38,960
no pollen no nothing

1339
00:57:43,190 --> 00:57:41,200
they tried to find a common explanation

1340
00:57:45,510 --> 00:57:43,200
steer had its own show feed the hog had

1341
00:57:47,030 --> 00:57:45,520
its own show feed the goats they ate

1342
00:57:49,030 --> 00:57:47,040
kind of everywhere

1343
00:57:50,789 --> 00:57:49,040
they also tested water samples but there

1344
00:57:52,950 --> 00:57:50,799
wasn't any contamination that would have

1345
00:57:54,870 --> 00:57:52,960
harmed animals you know

1346
00:57:56,789 --> 00:57:54,880
animals die yeah but when they start

1347
00:57:59,109 --> 00:57:56,799
coming after it one after another but by

1348
00:58:00,230 --> 00:57:59,119
time we put two and two together it we

1349
00:58:02,549 --> 00:58:00,240
couldn't have gotten anything on them

1350
00:58:04,549 --> 00:58:02,559
goats anyway frustrated they called ufo

1351
00:58:06,390 --> 00:58:04,559
investigator chuck czechowski when you

1352
00:58:08,870 --> 00:58:06,400
don't know

1353
00:58:11,030 --> 00:58:08,880
you try and check every avenue zukowski

1354
00:58:13,349 --> 00:58:11,040
is known nationwide for his theory about

1355
00:58:15,190 --> 00:58:13,359
the paranormal superhighway it's a

1356
00:58:17,829 --> 00:58:15,200
theory that started with animal

1357
00:58:19,829 --> 00:58:17,839
mutilation investigations i always kind

1358
00:58:21,349 --> 00:58:19,839
of draw the way the animal was laying

1359
00:58:23,030 --> 00:58:21,359
and what direction the animal was laying

1360
00:58:24,789 --> 00:58:23,040
i always put down

1361
00:58:26,710 --> 00:58:24,799
the gps coordinates he said he was

1362
00:58:28,789 --> 00:58:26,720
comparing notes on different cases and

1363
00:58:32,069 --> 00:58:28,799
noticed that they tend to cluster around

1364
00:58:34,630 --> 00:58:32,079
37 degrees north latitude this case

1365
00:58:36,309 --> 00:58:34,640
matches that geographic profile and so

1366
00:58:38,150 --> 00:58:36,319
do some anomalies about the way the

1367
00:58:39,510 --> 00:58:38,160
horse died in particular even the

1368
00:58:40,789 --> 00:58:39,520
deputies said

1369
00:58:41,510 --> 00:58:40,799
that um

1370
00:58:42,390 --> 00:58:41,520
that

1371
00:58:44,069 --> 00:58:42,400
idea

1372
00:58:45,670 --> 00:58:44,079
and observed the anus had been removed

1373
00:58:48,230 --> 00:58:45,680
from the horses the edges appeared to be

1374
00:58:50,549 --> 00:58:48,240
very smooth those smooth cuts have been

1375
00:58:52,710 --> 00:58:50,559
a unique part of animal mutilation cases

1376
00:58:54,630 --> 00:58:52,720
in colorado going back decades

1377
00:58:57,589 --> 00:58:54,640
walker's horse was reportedly pregnant

1378
00:58:59,430 --> 00:58:57,599
when it died but no cult was ever found

1379
00:59:01,190 --> 00:58:59,440
in the necropsy the vet who performed

1380
00:59:03,030 --> 00:59:01,200
the necropsy told zakowski that there

1381
00:59:05,030 --> 00:59:03,040
have been several other animal deaths in

1382
00:59:06,470 --> 00:59:05,040
this part of the state and that's scary

1383
00:59:07,589 --> 00:59:06,480
to me because

1384
00:59:08,870 --> 00:59:07,599
um i know how to deal with the

1385
00:59:11,030 --> 00:59:08,880
paranormal stuff

1386
00:59:13,190 --> 00:59:11,040
but if it's getting too viral

1387
00:59:14,230 --> 00:59:13,200
or uh you know or something that's

1388
00:59:15,589 --> 00:59:14,240
airborne

1389
00:59:17,510 --> 00:59:15,599
you know the people that live in this

1390
00:59:19,589 --> 00:59:17,520
area they have a right to know they need

1391
00:59:21,349 --> 00:59:19,599
to know so we visited one of the ranches

1392
00:59:23,829 --> 00:59:21,359
where a large number of cows were

1393
00:59:25,750 --> 00:59:23,839
reported to have died the rancher would

1394
00:59:28,230 --> 00:59:25,760
not allow us to film on his land but

1395
00:59:30,470 --> 00:59:28,240
showed us that that wasn't the case he

1396
00:59:33,190 --> 00:59:30,480
had dumped the carcasses of three or

1397
00:59:35,510 --> 00:59:33,200
four cows in a ravine on his land they

1398
00:59:37,829 --> 00:59:35,520
all died from anaplasmosis a form of

1399
00:59:39,829 --> 00:59:37,839
yellow fever and that diagnosis was

1400
00:59:41,670 --> 00:59:39,839
backed up by the state veterinarian we

1401
00:59:44,230 --> 00:59:41,680
were aware of that diagnosis and there

1402
00:59:45,510 --> 00:59:44,240
were a number of people in the community

1403
00:59:47,750 --> 00:59:45,520
that i think

1404
00:59:49,430 --> 00:59:47,760
we're rightfully concerned the state vet

1405
00:59:51,349 --> 00:59:49,440
added that there was no common

1406
00:59:53,349 --> 00:59:51,359
explanation for the deaths of all of the

1407
00:59:55,349 --> 00:59:53,359
animals for example the cow that

1408
00:59:57,109 --> 00:59:55,359
walker's grandson was raising it was a

1409
00:59:59,510 --> 00:59:57,119
gift from those same ranchers the

1410
01:00:02,309 --> 00:59:59,520
necropsy didn't show anaplasmosis but

1411
01:00:03,829 --> 01:00:02,319
rather bloat zukowski said not all of

1412
01:00:06,470 --> 01:00:03,839
his investigations will come up

1413
01:00:07,670 --> 01:00:06,480
unexplained there wasn't as many animals

1414
01:00:09,750 --> 01:00:07,680
that were

1415
01:00:11,109 --> 01:00:09,760
found dead

1416
01:00:13,589 --> 01:00:11,119
and they and

1417
01:00:15,910 --> 01:00:13,599
maybe not mysteriously but you never

1418
01:00:19,910 --> 01:00:15,920
know until you check watching out for

1419
01:00:26,829 --> 01:00:21,680
thanks andy

1420
01:00:30,630 --> 01:00:28,390
oh

1421
01:00:33,349 --> 01:00:30,640
well i i skipped a good party they get

1422
01:00:35,670 --> 01:00:33,359
an update on the anus part apparently

1423
01:00:36,630 --> 01:00:35,680
coyotes and such will chew on the soft

1424
01:00:37,990 --> 01:00:36,640
tissue

1425
01:00:40,230 --> 01:00:38,000
he said

1426
01:00:42,470 --> 01:00:40,240
um in other scavengers

1427
01:00:44,069 --> 01:00:42,480
so yeah

1428
01:00:45,990 --> 01:00:44,079
trying to explain the missing anus i

1429
01:00:48,150 --> 01:00:46,000
suppose i don't know

1430
01:00:49,990 --> 01:00:48,160
but uh yeah

1431
01:00:52,470 --> 01:00:50,000
i tried to switch it up to a couple

1432
01:00:54,710 --> 01:00:52,480
different kinds of videos um we got one

1433
01:00:56,870 --> 01:00:54,720
with the paranormal stuff and the saucer

1434
01:00:59,829 --> 01:00:56,880
which we hear about that a lot

1435
01:01:01,030 --> 01:00:59,839
um animal mutilation which it seems like

1436
01:01:05,270 --> 01:01:01,040
at the end

1437
01:01:05,990 --> 01:01:05,280
maybe not so much maybe maybe not but uh

1438
01:01:08,230 --> 01:01:06,000
some

1439
01:01:10,309 --> 01:01:08,240
explainable situations

1440
01:01:11,990 --> 01:01:10,319
and then some just uh genuinely weird

1441
01:01:13,589 --> 01:01:12,000
ones like the weather lady i thought

1442
01:01:14,950 --> 01:01:13,599
that was weird seemed like a spirit or

1443
01:01:17,030 --> 01:01:14,960
something

1444
01:01:20,069 --> 01:01:17,040
i don't know but hope you enjoyed them

1445
01:01:24,870 --> 01:01:23,589
felt good to be back

1446
01:01:28,069 --> 01:01:24,880
so

1447
01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:30,390
oh bummer i like the odd bummer oh

1448
01:01:35,670 --> 01:01:31,970
bummer was just a coyote

1449
01:01:37,990 --> 01:01:35,680
[Laughter]

1450
01:01:40,150 --> 01:01:38,000
like you wanted to be aliens that's so

1451
01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:40,160
funny i want aliens to mutilate our

1452
01:01:43,750 --> 01:01:42,170
freaking cattle what the heck

1453
01:01:45,030 --> 01:01:43,760
[Laughter]

1454
01:01:47,030 --> 01:01:45,040
it's funny

1455
01:01:48,789 --> 01:01:47,040
all right now i appreciate your time i

1456
01:01:50,870 --> 01:01:48,799
appreciate y'all hanging out i had a

1457
01:01:53,670 --> 01:01:50,880
great day um

1458
01:01:56,870 --> 01:01:53,680
hey jason what's up yup happy friday uh

1459
01:02:01,190 --> 01:01:56,880
hope everyone enjoys the weekend

1460
01:02:03,109 --> 01:02:01,200
um stay good stay supportive be you

1461
01:02:04,950 --> 01:02:03,119
um yeah like the video by the way i

1462
01:02:07,109 --> 01:02:04,960
always forget to say that like the video

1463
01:02:08,230 --> 01:02:07,119
if you haven't i'd appreciate it share

1464
01:02:10,549 --> 01:02:08,240
the video

1465
01:02:12,549 --> 01:02:10,559
subscribe too if you haven't uh with

1466
01:02:14,950 --> 01:02:12,559
that being said go check out that uh

1467
01:02:17,190 --> 01:02:14,960
post disclosure interview with lou

1468
01:02:18,870 --> 01:02:17,200
if you haven't cause that's pretty good

1469
01:02:23,820 --> 01:02:18,880
um and yeah

1470
01:02:36,950 --> 01:02:23,830
i'll check you next time peace

1471
01:02:56,790 --> 01:02:39,440
the same as a brother

1472
01:02:56,800 --> 01:03:00,150
[Music]

1473
01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:08,500
it's the same as

1474
01:03:08,510 --> 01:03:14,829
[Music]

1475
01:03:17,829 --> 01:03:16,870
activity that some might